TrainignPeaks, There is a known issue with at least the Roam as of the latest update where the unit crashes and loses the route if you go off route. Then hit up Wiggle at the link below! 4. That seems like a hyper-basic route though. Else, there wouldnt be a Wahoo engineer parked outside the DCR cave right now off re-riding my yesterday ride with a just-released developer test firmware that might solve at least one of my core issues. do i have to physically press the button each time i start a new lap ?? I thought that when a product was released it was reviewed according to Ray. I have an identical problem with the total freeze of the device. And they both have roughly the same capabilities now, too. Apologies for the thread hijack, how or what are people using to plan routes on the Wahoo? Unit Dimensions. If you have issues with GPS tracking, thats probably HW related. Connecting ELEMNT, BOLT, or ROAM to WiFi - Wahoo Fitness Support The unit had spent the whole night plugged into a charger plugged into a wall power point and recorded 100% charge. ELEMNT ROAM v1 (2019) and BOLT v2 (2021) Information and Setup . As a reminder, Wahoo includes all maps globally on their platform, so if you were to travel to somewhere that wasnt pre-loaded, you merely need to use the Wahoo app, which tells the BOLT to connect to WiFi to download them. The pros outweigh the cons in my situation, but if you are using in tree/building covered areas a speed sensor is recommended for accuracy on any gps unit. All for $279USD (compared to the ROAMs $379). Same here! No problem, here's the platform I use - you can too! I admit, yes, I decided to give Bolt a second chance. It got me where I was going, and without major issue. I dont have this problem. Other than that I am very satisfied with the Bolt v2. Before the factory reset, one problem was that the distance to the turn shown on the screen was always too long, by about 20-25 m. After the factory reset, the distance is too long by 30-80 m, which is definitely too much. Its as simple as that. No change. Note that for this review Im using a media loaner from Wahoo. Costco_Cowboy . The length of the parcours is 7.1 km, ascending height = 155 m. First I rode 1 lap, then 2 laps. So there are 2 things bad for me: map detail in mountain areas and lack of electronic compass. Since Wahoo doesnt specify which power delivery standard it supports (e.g. I would have been very surprised if the Bolt differed from the Roam in this respect. I have a further concern that the USB-C connector has more play up and down that I am comfortable with. As such, when you went off-route, you didnt get turn by turn instructions. Overall, it is a nice unit. I agree, My Bolt V2 works excellent. I cant find anything to support this claim on Wahoos site. Also, about this point in the post, existing Wahoo users are probably noticing a bunch of tweaks to the fonts and format styling. In my opinion the app should have the ability to load and download workout files, doesnt seem a super complicated thing to implement I have given up on the navigation features and still find the maps to be something you would see on a Tamagotchi screen. It just had a black and white stencil that it sorta faked overlaying your route atop. But hey, Ive got some solid riding in a non-flat place coming up this week. Do you think it will take three years for a new version or a new release could happen in 2023? And mute is on the right, easy to press with di2 button, and dying of dehydration as a result . Accuracy seems to tire towards the end. If youre trying to decide which unit to buy check out myin-depth reviews section. Sensor compatibility If you are a KOM Hunter/Slayer, then IMHO, the GPS accuracy is not there when compared to v1 Bolt. This page contains current and historical release notes for firmware updates to the original ELEMNT BOLT bike computer, distinguished from the new ELEMNT BOLT by its monochrome screen. Im not convinced that the Bolt2 supports fast charging or the USB-C charging port is fully implemented. Maybe quicker rendering frees up processing capacity for GPS issues? Check them out with the links below and the DCRAIN40 coupon! Wahoo needs to identify the exact power standards it complies with, and post it on their website. The replacement didnt work at all (overheated in the first 2 minutes) right out of the box. The re routing seems determined to take you back to where you left the route no matter what. V2 has the data on the device, it has colors. I ran a V1, a V2, an Apple Watch and an iPhone together over the same route at the same time. OK, very quick response from Support, I needed to update the phone app as well, now all working again. Here's a few other variants or sibling products that are worth considering: And finally, heres a handy list of accessories that work well with this unit (and some that I showed in the review). The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Thats because some users reported that there is no cover at all or that 1-2 covers (not attached to the Bolt v2) were delivered and worried about loosing them. For such expensive products you would expect them to last longer. This is an absolute basic requirement, so why cant Wahoo get this fixed. Confirmation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOgrhFgKpRw. They then tested it from the DCR Cave, side by side with units on the old firmware and new firmware. Honestly, it is not what I wanted to see as a v2 to the original Bolt. Please do your own due diligence. If charged with a quick charge USB it often doesnt charge but turns on instead (usually with a few minutes delay). It was more of an issue years ago, as these days virtually all of Wahoos 3rd party routing apps send the data correctly. Things like legit turn by turn directions, Strava Segment integration, and BestBikeSplit integration are all major items. This article covers how to update Wahoo Elemnt Bolt and Roam firmware to the latest version based on my own experience as a Wahoo Elemnt Road user. You'll support the site, and get ad-free DCR! I hope DCR considers finishing this review at some point. My own Bolt2 is also not fixed enough to consider working as advertised. Replaced my Bolt V1 with a V2. Wahoo Elemnt Roam wont update firmware | CycleChat Cycling Forum On the ELEMNT's first warmup, a QR code is displayed to make pairing with a smartphone easy through ELEMNT . Display Size. But then again, this isnt called an in-depth review. GP Llama has posted a YT video that shows the latest firmware update 13917 speeds up screen switching. The old firmware death spiraled, the new firmware fixed that issue. I have the original bolt since it was released. Ray, i know you cant give too much away but there is so much speculation on forums that there will be refreshed lines of bike gps computers this year from the major players (garmin, wahoo, possibly even karoo) can you say if you have heard anything concrete that there will be? Or does it only charge with USB A-to-C? The most common question I receive outside of the whats the best GPS watch for me variant, are photography-esq based. Wahoo support says that the route planner has to be blamed for the problems with the TBT notification. The new Bolt V2 was completely useless and lost the track within a few hundred metres of starting. I cover all the units to buy (and avoid) for indoor training. I think the device is also not very easy to used if you want to do workouts and dont have an online service subscribed. A few times, Edge 530 did not give me a new route before I approached D (I rode slowly, about 8-10 km/h). But the poor accuracy means Strava live segments just dont work. When using a route the turn by turn is borked. Such a waste. I might get down to some halfway acceptable hills later this week though, so Ill pull it into my full review then. 6. And to compliment that, heresThe Girls (my wifes) list. However, every other release seems to be breaking random stuff. I remember that when my unit was new, unit did not charge more than 99%. But it was on the firmware with the WR18-xxxxx prefix the problems started after changing the firmware to WR20-xxxxx! This includes now adding in support for WhatsApp, Line, Signal, and Telegram which is in addition to your previous text messaging support. Seems tbt (at least in same cases, ie. But the GPS and temperature sensor are absolutely not an improvement (they are both demonstrably worse) compared to my original Bolt or even my original Elemnt. Temperature sensor is useless, as it measures not ambient temperature, but how much device case is heated up on direct sunlight. I can only assume that Wahoo are developing a new working under the radar version of the Bolt2. I dont use navigation much and find that the Bolt2 is OK for my training needs and gives summary data very close to my Edge 830 in all respects. Hi, having moved over to a bolt v2 after years on a garmin 530, im just wondering about using the lap function there doesnt seem to be a lap function by location/gpsseems only to be for time or distance which isnt helpful when trying to compare lap speed or average power on a repeated loop. Thats where Im at with the BOLT V2. Im just interested to know if adding a speed sensor would solve the problem or do Strava Live Segments also rely on GPS? Strange enough it doesnt show the charging battery symbol when switched on. Button feel is poor but once setup is over I do not really touch them during ride. Any tricks to getting my bolt to update the software and the maps. 7. reduce accuracy. Obviously, you need to have good luck to get a unit which works flawlessly. Designed to be small and easy to use, it garnered many fans. Temperature reads too high by 2-3 degrees C in relation to Bolt v1. Am I doing something wrong, or is it a typical Wahoo were working on it issue? Presumably this is the behavior of the Bolt2 as well, thought I dont have one to check. To quickly compare the 2017 and 2021 Elemnt Bolt, below are some of the highlights: Previous Gen. Current Bolt. I like the way you think!! I still see the hills from the original route. GPS accuracy and satellite lock time - average reported accuracy is of 10 meters, initial satellite lock time is not less than 5 minutes, usually 10 minutes or so at a completely free sky. I would not wait. Now about this point youve noticed the title isnt (yet) In-Depth Review at some point, itll get there. Never miss a race with free LIVE coverage or replay on demand with Outside+, The One Subscription to Fuel All Your Adventures. This I have done and nothing has changed. IMHO the battery full empty calibration is broken or buggy OR the design is poor OR the quality of battery does not match the design spec.. For the average rider it probably isnt a bad enough problem to send the unit back. The amount of changes that have occurred to the ELEMNT from launch until now is staggering. Update Software : r/wahoofitness - Reddit It still takes the Bolt 2 about 5 minutes to get the first elevation reading. A further update fixed that. I do agree that for the most part I am very happy with the Bolt2 though do have one (less important) issue. Despite having over 80% charge, the unit turned off, then went through a ride recovery sequencegiving me how much I still had to do, all while I was (hopefully) still traveling on the correct route. Wahoo need to get this sorted even if its just for the health and wellbeing of those poor engineers. Great preliminary run down _ very helpful. Wahoo ELEMNT ROAM Whereas the BOLT V2 didnt seem too much faster on my unit (or to my eyes). With that go forth and update your units, youve now got a faster bike computer. It's less useful for city riding. However, the inaccuracy of the navigation and inability to pair with the Pioneer power meter leaves me questioning the build of the device, not the app itself. Given that the reason for the lack of update is a literal lack of update, aside from the occasional improvements but not warranting a full review suffices for me! The Leds I didnt find super useful, as looking to the map and seeing the colour indication which is very nice. No problem, the product comparison data is constantly updated with new products and new features added to old products! But why doesnt the elevation map change accordingly? Wahoo Fitness Android App - HR Issues. Though, even thats not always consistent. :^D. Confirmation: https://media.dcrainmaker.com/wp-content/cache/comment-plus/3803957-1600x1200.jpg?1622363098, Slow speed movements of less than 5-10 km/h are not logged and displayed as 0 KM/H. My unit is now 3 months old. 0 coins. I did not have a chance to compare roam v1 to roam v2, but I recently bought v1 roam for bargain 165 CHF which is considerably cheaper even than bolt v2. I suspect that Wahoo really mean that you MUST use the Bolt2 cable (USB-A to USB-C). Some rides are perfectly fine, and then others fail to do the things its supposed to do. The GPS drifted off in a straight line at constant speed around km 40 for half a kilometre perpendicular to the road before recovering and getting back on track. For me climb pro is very important feature as I ride a lot in the mountains. Wahoo ELEMNT ROAM Cycling GPS In-Depth Review, Wahoo Releases TrainerRoad Integration, Plus Ability to Customize Radar Icons to a Chicken, Best Bike GPS & Cycling Tech Buyers Guide, COROS Announces Training Hub Online Platform & Coaching Site. What a shame for a device which such a high potential. To whit, if your adapter isnt PD 3.0 compatible (or QC if that applies), and your adapter and cable arent designed to handle 5 amps, then you wont get fast charging. if you have a zone set to be 110 to 125bpm and the next higher zone starts at 126bpm, the correct zone colours will appear as your HR increases.
